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Average returns on scuttlebut's ratings: Rating Avg. Return Annualized Key: - : rated buy, stock went down + : rated sell, stock went up +/- : rated hold + : rated buy, stock went up - : rated sell, stock went down strong buy +13.13% (over an avg. of 1557.54 days) +3.08% buy +6.76% (over an avg. of 568.72 days) +4.34% hold +11.06% (over an avg. of 823.93 days) +4.90% sell +23.97% (over an avg. of 1542.09 days) +5.67% strong sell -11.24% (over an avg. of 1755.67 days) -2.34% -- See performance by time period -- All ratings made during the year 2002 All ratings made during the year 2003 All ratings made during the year 2004 All ratings made during the year 2005 All ratings made during the year 2007 All ratings made during the year 2016 All ratings made during the year 2017 All ratings made during the year 2018 All ratings made during the year 2019 All ratings made during the year 2020 All ratings made during the year 2021 All ratings made during the year 2023 Ratings made during Dec, 2002 Ratings made during Jan, 2003 Ratings made during Mar, 2003 Ratings made during Apr, 2003 Ratings made during May, 2003 Ratings made during Jun, 2003 Ratings made during Jul, 2003 Ratings made during Aug, 2003 Ratings made during Dec, 2003 Ratings made during Feb, 2004 Ratings made during Apr, 2004 Ratings made during May, 2004 Ratings made during Jun, 2004 Ratings made during Jul, 2004 Ratings made during Aug, 2004 Ratings made during Sep, 2004 Ratings made during Nov, 2004 Ratings made during Jan, 2005 Ratings made during Mar, 2005 Ratings made during May, 2005 Ratings made during Jun, 2005 Ratings made during Jul, 2005 Ratings made during Sep, 2005 Ratings made during Oct, 2005 Ratings made during Nov, 2005 Ratings made during Sep, 2007 Ratings made during Oct, 2007 Ratings made during Dec, 2007 Ratings made during Aug, 2016 Ratings made during Oct, 2016 Ratings made during Apr, 2017 Ratings made during May, 2017 Ratings made during Jun, 2018 Ratings made during Jan, 2019 Ratings made during Nov, 2019 Ratings made during Jan, 2020 Ratings made during Jul, 2020 Ratings made during Apr, 2021 Ratings made during Nov, 2023

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-- ACAS --
ACAS	Dec. 15 2002, 12:11 PM ET Rating changed on Jan. 29 2003, 12:17 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
ACAS performance: Price near date of rating (12/16/2002): 21.72 Price near end of rating (01/29/2003): 22.43 Price change: +0.71 Dividends collected: 0.02 Gain/Loss over 45 days: +0.73 +3.36% Annualized Gain/Loss: +27.25% This stock is a bet on lots of things going well, while the party stops when just a few things go poorly. Do not confuse dividends with the proceeds of corporate rape. Investors are not really getting dividends but the tribute that ACAS extorts from its portfolio companies. They need to find new investments all the time to cover up their inevitable failures. The few good investments have a heavy burden of covering the so-called dividends. The ACAS "dividend" is as far from a sure thing as you can get. The high yield is no surprise. Was this user's rating of 'ACAS' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 4 -- 75.00%)
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ACAS	Jan. 29 2003, 12:17 PM ET Rating changed on May. 26 2003, 9:41 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
ACAS performance: Price near date of rating (01/29/2003): 22.43 Price near end of rating (05/27/2003): 26.69 Price change: +4.26 Dividends collected: 0.67 Gain/Loss over 116 days: +4.93 +21.98% Annualized Gain/Loss: +69.16% Taking a longer view, this situation is probably not as bad as the shorts think it is. First, the company is pretty spread out, thus mitigating the risk of serious disappointment. They have had just a few failures, and absorbed the losses without consequence. Most of the investments are mature companies, with reliable cash flows. Second, management has a strong incentive to perform, as their compensation is subordinate to the dividend. They actively participate in board decisions of their companies, thus are in a position to effect necessary changes. The concerns continue to be the obligation of the companies to funnel susbstantial cash upstream plus the PIK nature of the interest income, which means that dividends are being paid out of non-cash income. Was this user's rating of 'ACAS' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 4 -- 75.00%)
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ACAS	May. 26 2003, 9:41 PM ET Rating changed on Jul. 5 2003, 11:45 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
ACAS performance: Price near date of rating (05/27/2003): 26.69 Price near end of rating (07/07/2003): 27.55 Price change: +0.86 Dividends collected: 0.68 Gain/Loss over 40 days: +1.54 +5.77% Annualized Gain/Loss: +52.65% The new tax bill won't be good for investors in ACAS and other BDC's. Investors won't get the same tax break versus stocks like banks and utilities. ACAS dividends will be taxed at the old rate. Plus, stock has been on a tare, and has discounted for now what is but a modest improvement in portfolio performance. Cash flow continues to be weak. Time to take profits. Was this user's rating of 'ACAS' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 4 -- 75.00%)
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ACAS	Jul. 5 2003, 11:45 AM ET Rating changed on Aug. 17 2003, 11:58 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
ACAS performance: Price near date of rating (07/07/2003): 27.55 Price near end of rating (08/18/2003): 23.08 Gain/Loss over 43 days: -4.47 -16.23% Annualized Gain/Loss: -137.77% Stock has dropped since my sell recommendation, and is now too cheap to ignore. A better economy should help keep this juggling act aloft. I still don't like its unsatisfactory cash flow, but its dividend should attract more buyers at these levels.. Was this user's rating of 'ACAS' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 4 -- 75.00%)
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ACAS	Aug. 17 2003, 11:58 AM ET Rating changed on Apr. 9 2004, 10:02 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
ACAS performance: Price near date of rating (08/18/2003): 23.08 Price near end of rating (04/12/2004): 30.88 Price change: +7.80 Dividends collected: 2.14 Gain/Loss over 236 days: +9.94 +43.07% Annualized Gain/Loss: +66.61% We are being given a rare oportunity here. Company's asset base will benefit from economic improvement. But stock is under pressure since managemnt disclosed the existence of a routine SEC inquiry. This, in my opinion, is a non-event. Insiders continue to buy shares. Admittedly, this company would qualify as a world-class juggling act, but it has remainbed aloft through some very tough times. I still don't like its unsatisfactory cash flow, but its dividend should attract more buyers at these levels.. Was this user's rating of 'ACAS' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 4 -- 75.00%)
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ACAS	Apr. 9 2004, 10:02 PM ET Rating changed on May. 13 2004, 11:45 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
ACAS performance: Price near date of rating (04/12/2004): 30.88 Price near end of rating (05/13/2004): 26.38 Gain/Loss over 34 days: -4.50 -14.57% Annualized Gain/Loss: -156.41% Stock is under pressure. Don't know why. This company would qualify as a world-class juggling act, but it has remainbed aloft through some very tough times. I still don't like its unsatisfactory cash flow. Has suffered periodic sinking spells. Action has been weak enought to lift my buy rating at this time. Will keep an eye on it for a possible downgrade.. Was this user's rating of 'ACAS' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 4 -- 75.00%)
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ACAS	May. 13 2004, 11:45 PM ET Rating changed on Sep. 11 2004, 11:55 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
ACAS performance: Price near date of rating (05/13/2004): 26.38 Price near end of rating (09/13/2004): 32.02 Price change: +5.64 Dividends collected: 1.42 Gain/Loss over 121 days: +7.06 +26.76% Annualized Gain/Loss: +80.72% I've had this as a hold for the past month, with the stock 3 points higher. Now, they continue to defy gravity and are deemed worthy of another underwritten offering, so they can pay the dividend. Amazing! But you can't argue with success. With the economy improving, ACAS has an opportunity to clean up its act once and for all and raise some legitimate cash, either by selling some winners or by harvesting some dividends from below. The financial stocks have all taken a big hit, time now to consolidate. This number will have an easier time transitioning to a higher rate environment than most thrifts, so its stock ought to recover first. Was this user's rating of 'ACAS' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 4 -- 75.00%)
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ACAS	Sep. 11 2004, 11:55 AM ET Rating changed on Jan. 2 2005, 11:47 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
ACAS performance: Price near date of rating (09/13/2004): 32.02 Price near end of rating (01/03/2005): 32.96 Price change: +0.94 Dividends collected: 0.79 Gain/Loss over 113 days: +1.73 +5.40% Annualized Gain/Loss: +17.44% Reverting to a hold, as the stock is in new high territory and is in the market for yet another new round of fundraising. This offering is unusual because most of the issue will be in the form of a forward sales contract with the underwriters. The underwriters will sell shares short to the public, and subsequently cover with new shares purchased at the same price from the issuer. It looks like a good deal for the underwriters as well as the issuer, who wins no matter what happens to the price during the term of the contract. If it is so good for them it must be not so good for the customer. Sounds like 2 hedgers against 1 hedgee. Let this one play out. Was this user's rating of 'ACAS' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 4 -- 75.00%)
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ACAS	Jan. 2 2005, 11:47 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
ACAS performance: Price near date of rating (01/03/2005): 32.96 Recent price (01/03/2017): 17.99 Price change: -14.97 Dividends collected: 14.29 Gain/Loss over 7192 days: -0.68 -2.06% Annualized Gain/Loss: -0.10% Stock is up a bit after my change to hold from buy. But, price is more vulnerable to disappointments and other kinds of bad news, like the criminal investigation of its brother BDC, Allied Capital. The last fundraising, which included a forward sales contract, looks a bit too good a deal for the underwriters and the issuer, who win no matter what happens to the price during the term of the contract. If it is so good for them it must be not so good for the stockholder (stuckholder?). Sounds like 2 hedgers against 1 hedgee. Let this go. Was this user's rating of 'ACAS' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 4 -- 75.00%)
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-- BANR --
BANR	Dec. 15 2002, 12:15 PM ET Rating changed on Jun. 21 2003, 1:47 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
BANR performance: Price near date of rating (12/16/2002): 18.80 Price near end of rating (06/23/2003): 19.90 Price change: +1.10 Dividends collected: 0.3 Gain/Loss over 187 days: +1.40 +7.45% Annualized Gain/Loss: +14.54% Company has been victimized several times by employee misadventure, which is not surprising considering the company's torrid appetite for growth. They are a weak competitor in many markets. Too many markets, in fact, for a company of this size. They should have stayed at home. Was this user's rating of 'BANR' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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BANR	Jun. 21 2003, 1:47 PM ET Rating changed on Nov. 28 2004, 11:30 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
BANR performance: Price near date of rating (06/23/2003): 19.90 Price near end of rating (11/29/2004): 33.62 Price change: +13.72 Dividends collected: 0.94 Gain/Loss over 526 days: +14.66 +73.67% Annualized Gain/Loss: +51.12% Stock collapsed after I rated it a sell, then has rebounded with rest of market. Rising tide lifts all ships. Assuming asset quality remains stable, stock should enjoy market performance. BUT, Company has been victimized several times by employee misadventure, which is not surprising considering the company's torrid appetite for growth. They are a weak competitor in many markets. Too many markets, in fact, for a company of this size. They should have stayed at home. Hold rating is a WEAK hold! Was this user's rating of 'BANR' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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BANR	Nov. 28 2004, 11:30 AM ET Rating changed on Dec. 15 2007, 10:03 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
BANR performance: Price near date of rating (11/29/2004): 33.62 Price near end of rating (12/17/2007): 27.38 Price change: -6.24 Dividends collected: 2.16 Gain/Loss over 1112 days: -4.08 -12.14% Annualized Gain/Loss: -3.98% In July of 2003, I wrote, "Company has been victimized several times by employee misadventure, which is not surprising considering the Company's torrid appetite for growth. They are a weak competitor in many markets. Too many markets, in fact, for a company of this size. They should have stayed at home." Surprise!!! They apparently were listening and have since stayed away from the acquisition route, preferring to grow organically, building their base in what has been a lackluster economic environment in the Pacific Northwest. Things have turned up in recent months in their area, leading me to think this stock will do well, playing catch-up with their peers. Buy rating is based on fact that stock is at new highs, and may rest awhile. But the next big move should be to the upside from here. Was this user's rating of 'BANR' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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BANR	Dec. 15 2007, 10:03 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
BANR performance: Price near date of rating (12/17/2007): 27.38 Recent price (09/11/2024): 55.98 Price change: +28.60 Dividends collected: 18.31 Gain/Loss over 6115 days: +46.91 +171.33% Annualized Gain/Loss: +10.23% They have stayed away from the acquisition route, preferring to grow organically, building their base in what has been a reasonably good economic environment in the Pacific Northwest. But things have begun to sour in recent months in their area, leading me to think this stock will do no better than its peers. Not enough business in metropolitan centers to attract much of a premium bid, compared to other buyout candidates. Was this user's rating of 'BANR' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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-- BCSB --
BCSB	Dec. 15 2002, 12:18 PM ET Rating changed on Mar. 22 2003, 5:52 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
BCSB performance: Price near date of rating (12/16/2002): 12.98 Price near end of rating (03/24/2003): 13.43 Price change: +0.45 Dividends collected: 0.125 Gain/Loss over 97 days: +0.57 +4.43% Annualized Gain/Loss: +16.67% Management has been steadfast in growing slowly, using its capital to build de novo branches and make a small but significant acquisition in a neighboring market. Look for better numbers ahead, justifying a second step conversion or a take-out at a premium price. Was this user's rating of 'BCSB' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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BCSB	Mar. 22 2003, 5:52 PM ET Rating changed on Apr. 30 2003, 09:50 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
BCSB performance: Price near date of rating (03/24/2003): 13.43 Price near end of rating (04/30/2003): 15.25 Price change: +1.82 Dividends collected: 0.125 Gain/Loss over 38 days: +1.95 +14.48% Annualized Gain/Loss: +139.08% The better numbers that I forecast have started, with a doubling of earnings year-over-year. Company has an edge in developing new market, Harford County, just northeast of Baltimore. Look for several de novo branches there, in strip centers being built to serve the new homes going up. Management has been steadfast in growing slowly, using its capital to build de novo branches and make a small but significant acquisition in a neighboring market. Look for a speed up in growth ahead, justifying a second step conversion or a take-out at a premium price. Was this user's rating of 'BCSB' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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BCSB	Apr. 30 2003, 09:50 AM ET Rating changed on Jun. 1 2003, 1:50 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
BCSB performance: Price near date of rating (04/30/2003): 15.25 Price near end of rating (06/02/2003): 16.00 Gain/Loss over 32 days: +0.75 +4.92% Annualized Gain/Loss: +56.12% Lowering my rating to buy, based on price. Stock closing in on its adjusted book value. The better numbers that I had previously forecast have continued, with a doubling of earnings year-over-year. Company has an edge in developing new market, Harford County, just northeast of Baltimore. Look for several de novo branches there, in strip centers being built to serve the new homes going up. Management has been steadfast in growing slowly, using its capital to build de novo branches and make a small but significant acquisition in a neighboring market. Look for a speed up in growth ahead, justifying a second step conversion or a take-out at a premium price. Was this user's rating of 'BCSB' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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BCSB	Jun. 1 2003, 1:50 PM ET Rating changed on Oct. 2 2007, 10:38 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
BCSB performance: Price near date of rating (06/02/2003): 16.00 Price near end of rating (10/02/2007): 8.00 Price change: -8.00 Dividends collected: 1.75 Gain/Loss over 1584 days: -6.25 -39.06% Annualized Gain/Loss: -9.00% Lowering my rating to hold, based on price. Stock closing in on its adjusted book value. The better numbers that I had previously forecast have continued, with a doubling of earnings year-over-year. Company has an edge in developing new market, Harford County, just northeast of Baltimore. Look for several de novo branches there, in strip centers being built to serve the new homes going up. Management has been steadfast in growing slowly, using its capital to build de novo branches and make a small but significant acquisition in a neighboring market. Look for a speed up in growth ahead, justifying a second step conversion. I would wait for the second-step before buying. Was this user's rating of 'BCSB' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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BCSB	Oct. 2 2007, 10:38 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
BCSB performance: Price near date of rating (10/02/2007): 8.00 Recent price (02/14/2014): 24.68 Gain/Loss over 6190 days: +16.68 +208.50% Annualized Gain/Loss: +12.29% Second step conversion will be a struggle, and just may require an infusion of funds from a private party to save it, albeit it at a lower price, dragging everyone down. Not a pretty picture. Even if it survives, asset opportunities are uninspiring as the economy slips into recession. Was this user's rating of 'BCSB' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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-- CBH --
CBH	Sep. 13 2005, 9:12 PM ET Rating closed on Oct. 2 2007, 10:41 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Sell
CBH performance: Price near date of rating (09/13/2005): 31.16 Price near end of rating (10/02/2007): 39.47 Price change: +8.31 Dividends collected: 0.98 Gain/Loss over 749 days: +9.29 +29.81% Annualized Gain/Loss: +14.53% They telegraphed their disappointing news a few weeks ago when they said they wouldn't be opening as many branches as they had planned this quarter. Then, they dropped the other shoe by actually announcing they would miss their expected earnings this quarter. I don't know what else is needed to convince investors that the game is over for these guys. Bad news usually is followed by more bad news. With institutions still over-invested in financials and under-invested in energy and technology stocks, it is clear that the upside is extremely limited in financials in general and non-existent in growth-stock pretenders like Commerce. Was this user's rating of 'CBH' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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-- DCOM --
DCOM	Nov. 26 2004, 7:19 PM ET Rating changed on Nov. 29 2004, 10:46 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
DCOM performance: Price near date of rating (11/26/2004): 30.40 Price near end of rating (11/29/2004): 29.75 Gain/Loss over 3 days: -0.65 -2.14% Annualized Gain/Loss: -260.37% One of the unsung heroes of the NYC market, this number has lagged on the upside, yet has been consistent with dividend increases. Its forte is multi-family lending, similar to NYB. With NYB suffering from management problems, lookers might finally notice DCOM as a suitable alternative. The multi-family lending market is likely to get a boost from the expiration of tas abatements, which will force higher rents or condo conversions; either way, asset values will move up smartly. Good market for transactions and refinancings. Good market for DCOM. Was this user's rating of 'DCOM' helpful to you? Currently:   0 said yes (of 1 -- 0.00%)
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DCOM	Nov. 29 2004, 10:46 AM ET Rating closed on Oct. 2 2007, 10:39 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
DCOM performance: Price near date of rating (11/29/2004): 29.75 Price near end of rating (10/02/2007): 24.75 Price change: -5.00 Dividends collected: 2.5 Gain/Loss over 1036 days: -2.50 -8.40% Annualized Gain/Loss: -2.96% One of the unsung heroes of the NYC market, this number has lagged on the upside, yet has been consistent with dividend increases. Its forte is multi-family lending, similar to NYB. With NYB suffering from management problems, lookers might finally notice DCOM as a suitable alternative. The multi-family lending market is likely to get a boost from the expiration of tas abatements, which will force higher rents or condo conversions; either way, asset values will move up smartly. Good market for transactions and refinancings. Good market for DCOM. Was this user's rating of 'DCOM' helpful to you? Currently:   0 said yes (of 1 -- 0.00%)
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-- FFNM --
FFNM	May. 7 2005, 11:28 AM ET Rating changed on Oct. 7 2007, 06:50 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
FFNM performance: Price near date of rating (05/09/2005): 8.50 Price near end of rating (10/08/2007): 8.04 Price change: -0.46 Dividends collected: 0.5 Gain/Loss over 883 days: +0.04 +0.47% Annualized Gain/Loss: +0.19% Since second-steps should make companies stronger, not weaker, there is only one explanation for this stock trading at a 15% discount from the offering price, and that is that the sellers are stupid. How much lower can this stock go, supported by a 4.5%+ yield? I am a buyer right here. Show me your stock! Was this user's rating of 'FFNM' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 2 -- 50.00%)
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FFNM	Oct. 7 2007, 06:50 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
FFNM performance: Price near date of rating (10/08/2007): 8.04 Recent price (05/23/2018): 8.90 Price change: +0.86 Dividends collected: 2.96 Gain/Loss over 6185 days: +3.82 +47.51% Annualized Gain/Loss: +2.80% This is a fully-converted bank, yet It is cheaper than almost all of the MHC's on a book value basis. Its earnings are down with the rest of the group, but on a relative value basis it should be bought. It has been a long struggle with this stock. Total lack of interest. Patience will pay off. Was this user's rating of 'FFNM' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 2 -- 50.00%)
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-- FNBC --
FNBC	Aug. 27 2016, 1:50 PM ET Rating changed on Oct. 26 2016, 11:21 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
FNBC performance: Price near date of rating (08/29/2016): 12.88 Price near end of rating (10/26/2016): 6.30 Gain/Loss over 60 days: -6.58 -51.09% Annualized Gain/Loss: -310.80% Bank was formed in 2006 by former execs from National Bank of Commerce (after it was absorbed by what is now Chase). Went public in 2013 at 26. Has grown by acquisitions and enterprising commercial lending into a nearly $5 billion bank today and is the largest bank headquartered in New Orleans. Had a bad time getting its 2015 10k filed due to accounting issues and this controversy trashed the stock down to 11+. Not out of the woods yet as bad energy loans and losses from recent floods in its market could bring more bad news. Activists looking for sizable opportunities ought to be able to pick up some shares in the slosh, and with most shareholders losing money they ought to be able to improve the governance of this bank. Rebuilding the economy following the floods presents lots of lending opportunities especially for a big local bank. No dividend is likely until bank improves its capital position; that is why it is a buy instead of a strong buy. Was this user's rating of 'FNBC' helpful to you? Currently:   6 said yes (of 6 -- 100.00%)
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FNBC	Oct. 26 2016, 11:21 AM ET Rating changed on Apr. 29 2017, 08:09 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
FNBC performance: Price near date of rating (10/26/2016): 6.30 Price near end of rating (05/01/2017): 0.23 Gain/Loss over 185 days: -6.07 -96.35% Annualized Gain/Loss: -190.10% Have to reduce rating to HOLD. Big question now is level of intransigence of regulators that slapped restrictions on Company months after 2015 10K was filed. How long will it take and what are the criteria for the restrictions to be lifted? One of my cardinal investing rules is to never bet against the government, which has unlimited funds to pursue its agenda and which never admits to an error. If Company can develop rational capital plan, will regulators relent, or waffle in indecisiveness as the February coupon payment date on its subordinated debt approaches? Bank was formed in 2006 by former execs from National Bank of Commerce (after it was absorbed by what is now Chase). Went public in 2013 at 26. Has grown by acquisitions and enterprising commercial lending into a nearly $5 billion bank today and is the largest bank headquartered in New Orleans. Had a bad time getting its 2015 10k filed due to accounting issues and this controversy trashed the stock down to 11+. (Now 6+). (Now up to date on all filings, and about to name new auditor). Not out of the woods yet as bad energy loans and losses from recent floods in its market could bring more bad news. Activists looking for sizable opportunities ought to be able to pick up some shares in the slosh, and with most shareholders losing money they ought to be able to improve the governance of this bank. Rebuilding the economy following the floods presents lots of lending opportunities especially for a big local bank. No dividend is likely, now and for a very long time. Was this user's rating of 'FNBC' helpful to you? Currently:   6 said yes (of 6 -- 100.00%)
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FNBC	Apr. 29 2017, 08:09 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Sell
FNBC performance: Price near date of rating (05/01/2017): 0.23 Recent price (05/12/2017): 0.13 Gain/Loss over 2693 days: -0.10 -43.48% Annualized Gain/Loss: -5.89% They have run out of time and the FDIC has run out of patience. Despite many opportunities to add capital, management continued to argue that the bank was fundamentally strong because their federal tax credit assets had more value than regulators asserted. Fact is, if no one wants to buy your assets, you have to recognize that there is no there there. Shades of Lehman Brothers! Now, the bank has been seized, the depositors are being paid off and the FDIC is recording a $900+ million loss. What's left of the holding company? It still has outstanding debt and some newly issued preferred that was sold to the incumbent directors. Someone paid 20 cents for the stock in the market following the announcement of the seizure. All I can say is the 20 cents is better than nothing. One of my cardinal investing rules has been to never bet against the government, which has unlimited funds to pursue its agenda and which never admits to an error. Regulators wanted the Company to develop a rational capital plan, but despite some rather cosmetic efforts and a sale of substantial business assets to Hancock Bank, management obviously chose to fight rather than seek a deal agreeable to the government. Well, who won that fight? Bank was formed in 2006 by former execs from National Bank of Commerce (after it was absorbed by what is now Chase). Went public in 2013 at 26. Grew by acquisitions and enterprising commercial lending into a nearly $5 billion bank today and became the largest bank headquartered in New Orleans. Had a bad time getting its 2015 10k filed due to accounting issues and this controversy trashed the stock down to 11 or so when I first recommended it. Regulators were not convinced and slapped consent orders on the bank, driving the stock price to about 5. Replaced the auditors and top management, but were obviously unable to convince the regulators that they had a viable plan to resuscitate the bank. Major owners include Castle Creek, BlackRock, Ameriprise, Vanguard, BancFunds, all of whom are crying in their beer today. Was this user's rating of 'FNBC' helpful to you? Currently:   6 said yes (of 6 -- 100.00%)
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-- FRE --
FRE	Jun. 9 2003, 10:46 AM ET Rating changed on Nov. 21 2005, 9:17 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
FRE performance: Price near date of rating (06/09/2003): 50.26 Price near end of rating (11/21/2005): 62.45 Price change: +12.19 Dividends collected: 3.03 Gain/Loss over 896 days: +15.22 +30.28% Annualized Gain/Loss: +12.34% Looks like they found a few cockroaches. And, you know, where there are a few cockroaches, there's bound to be many. Freddie sits atop a mountain of derivatives. Who said, "derivatives are like weapons of mass destruction?" I don't know about that, but I do believe that what we are seeing today is just the beginning of a long and politically-charged expose into the very heart of Freddie's balance sheet and accounting practices. Where it ends I don't know, but I wouldn't be long a lot of Freddie in here. Was this user's rating of 'FRE' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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FRE	Nov. 21 2005, 9:17 PM ET Rating changed on Oct. 2 2007, 10:41 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Sell
FRE performance: Price near date of rating (11/21/2005): 62.45 Price near end of rating (10/02/2007): 62.04 Price change: -0.41 Dividends collected: 3.88 Gain/Loss over 679 days: +3.47 +5.56% Annualized Gain/Loss: +2.99% I'll admit I was a bit premature in recommending a sale of this stock 2 years ago, as it benefitted from several major attempts to clean up its act, including a change of top management. But, the cockroaches are still there, and they will emerge again. Freddie still sits atop a mountain of derivatives, also known as "weapons of mass destruction." Accounting for derivatives will continue as a major issue, and a major embarrassment for Freddie. It is also vulnerable to new competitors, who have moved boldly into the fray while Freddie has been scrambling. Its friends in Congress have also become vulnerable, as complaints grow about the cost of government support. When you benefactor stops benefacting, you're in for some hurting! Was this user's rating of 'FRE' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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FRE	Oct. 2 2007, 10:41 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Sell
FRE performance: Price near date of rating (10/02/2007): 62.04 Recent price (07/07/2010): 0.34 Price change: -61.70 Dividends collected: 0.75 Gain/Loss over 6190 days: -60.95 -98.24% Annualized Gain/Loss: -5.79% I'll admit I was a bit premature in recommending a sale of this stock 2 years ago, as it benefitted from several major attempts to clean up its act, including a change of top management. But, the cockroaches are still there, and they will emerge again. Freddie still sits atop a mountain of derivatives, also known as "weapons of mass destruction." Accounting for derivatives will continue as a major issue, and a major embarrassment for Freddie. It is also vulnerable to new competitors, who have moved boldly into the fray while Freddie has been scrambling. Its friends in Congress have also become vulnerable, as complaints grow about the cost of government support. When you benefactor stops benefacting, you're in for some hurting! Was this user's rating of 'FRE' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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-- HCBK --
HCBK	Jun. 4 2005, 10:33 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
HCBK performance: Price near date of rating (06/06/2005): 10.84 Recent price (10/30/2015): 10.12 Price change: -0.72 Dividends collected: 3.56 Gain/Loss over 7040 days: +2.84 +26.20% Annualized Gain/Loss: +1.36% Somebody say "Golden East?" I say, "Better than Golden West!" Better dividend, better P/BV ratio, better Efficiency Ratio, better growth opportunities, better takeover possibility. Plus, HCBK stock has been a laggard for 2 years. With new stock out there, it qualifies for more institutional portfolios and is likely to be included in more stock indices. Was this user's rating of 'HCBK' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 3 -- 100.00%)
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-- ICBC --
ICBC	Apr. 2 2003, 09:40 AM ET Rating changed on Jul. 26 2003, 11:40 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
ICBC performance: Price near date of rating (04/02/2003): 26.95 Price near end of rating (07/28/2003): 32.53 Price change: +5.58 Dividends collected: 0.16 Gain/Loss over 114 days: +5.74 +21.30% Annualized Gain/Loss: +68.20% Have you ever seen a more beautiful chart? It has been trying forever to close the gap from last September. A successful move should bring it to the $30 level is a jiffy. They seem to be following the crowd in opening new branches. If they don't get the results they expect, I think the board will start looking more favorably on consolidating with a larger, better managed competitor. Resembles Haven. Disclosure: I have owned the stock since the get go. Was this user's rating of 'ICBC' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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ICBC	Jul. 26 2003, 11:40 PM ET Rating changed on Dec. 13 2003, 5:02 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
ICBC performance: Price near date of rating (07/28/2003): 32.53 Price near end of rating (12/15/2003): 34.55 Price change: +2.02 Dividends collected: 0.37 Gain/Loss over 140 days: +2.39 +7.35% Annualized Gain/Loss: +19.16% Stock has reached my target of 30+ and now must consolidate. They seem to be following the crowd in opening new branches. If they don't get the results they expect, I think the board will start looking more favorably on consolidating with a larger, better managed competitor. Resembles Haven. Disclosure: I have owned the stock since the get go. Was this user's rating of 'ICBC' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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ICBC	Dec. 13 2003, 5:02 PM ET Rating changed on May. 15 2004, 11:17 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
ICBC performance: Price near date of rating (12/15/2003): 34.55 Price near end of rating (05/17/2004): 35.38 Price change: +0.83 Dividends collected: 0.45 Gain/Loss over 153 days: +1.28 +3.70% Annualized Gain/Loss: +8.83% Company has announced it will buy SIB, which has had its problems with mortgages, plus another big mortgage wholesale operation to add to its core business strategy. This seems to me to be the wrong time to bulk up in the mortgage business. I had hoped ICBC would look to consolidate with a larger NYC thrift, rather than go the acquisition route. They are adding a lot of risk, too, by opening new branches in the high rent districts of Manhattan. Midtown is becoming a competitive battlefield, among Wamu, North Fork, Commerce, and now Wachovia, Valley National and Fleet rushing in with ICBC. I think they will all suffer bruises, but ICBC will suffer most. Was this user's rating of 'ICBC' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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ICBC	May. 15 2004, 11:17 AM ET Rating changed on Aug. 31 2004, 07:14 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
ICBC performance: Price near date of rating (05/17/2004): 35.38 Price near end of rating (08/31/2004): 39.24 Price change: +3.86 Dividends collected: 0.24 Gain/Loss over 108 days: +4.10 +11.59% Annualized Gain/Loss: +39.17% It's time to start nibbling at the rubble. I picked this one because its stock price performance has surprised me. While I remain apprehensive about its de novo branching in Manhattan, its proven talent for absorbing acquisitions, while spreading its reach through Staten Island and into Northern New Jersey, places its franchise squarely in an attractive zone of opportunity. I suspect they are busily addressing their risk profile in the mortgage banking business, which should cushion much of the adverse consequences of the expected interest rate increases. Was this user's rating of 'ICBC' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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ICBC	Aug. 31 2004, 07:14 AM ET Rating changed on Oct. 30 2005, 9:18 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
ICBC performance: Price near date of rating (08/31/2004): 39.24 Price near end of rating (10/31/2005): 39.55 Price change: +0.31 Dividends collected: 1.05 Gain/Loss over 425 days: +1.36 +3.47% Annualized Gain/Loss: +2.98% In May I wrote "It's time to start nibbling at the rubble. I picked this one because its stock price performance has surprised me. While I remain apprehensive about its de novo branching in Manhattan, its proven talent for absorbing acquisitions, while spreading its reach through Staten Island and into Northern New Jersey, places its franchise squarely in an attractive zone of opportunity. I suspect they are busily addressing their risk profile in the mortgage banking business, which should cushion much of the adverse consequences of the expected interest rate increases." Wow!!! Look at what has happened. In an otherwise moribund market, this puppy looks ready to reach an all time high. If anything passes the smell test, this one does! Perfume!!!! Was this user's rating of 'ICBC' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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ICBC	Oct. 30 2005, 9:18 PM ET Rating closed on Oct. 2 2007, 10:42 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
ICBC performance: Price near date of rating (10/31/2005): 39.55 Price near end of rating (05/31/2006): 41.98 Price change: +2.43 Dividends collected: 0.54 Gain/Loss over 701 days: +2.97 +7.51% Annualized Gain/Loss: +3.91% Sad to say, I rated this a strong buy in May 2004, and we are at the same price, despite a pending takeover. The spread to the $42 cash buyout may seem attractive to arbitrageurs, but there is risk that litigation against the acquiring company, Sovereign Bancorp, could delay, and even kill, the deal. I do take solace in the ICBC comment supporting the deal, that de novo branching in Manhattan turned out to be too expensive. Time to take the money. Plenty of cheap alternatives. (See my rating for DCOM). Was this user's rating of 'ICBC' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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-- IYF --
IYF	Nov. 16 2023, 3:35 PM ET Rating changed on Nov. 18 2023, 08:24 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
IYF performance: Price near date of rating (11/16/2023): 78.30 Price near end of rating (11/20/2023): 79.00 Gain/Loss over 2 days: +0.70 +0.89% Annualized Gain/Loss: +162.43% This is an ETF, heavily weighted toward BHK and big banks and insurance companies. All would benefit from the impending yield curve reversion, which sometimes seems like it will never happen, but it will. Our little community banks lack the heft of the big boys to roll with the imposing tide of technology and compliance costs, plus the recurring headache of occupancy costs. Focus on BV/TBV is a distraction, and depends on hope rather than confidence. The stability of the holdings of IYF makes it a choice pick to replace any small bank stocks that are jettisoned. Was this user's rating of 'IYF' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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IYF	Nov. 18 2023, 08:24 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
IYF performance: Price near date of rating (11/20/2023): 79.00 Recent price (09/11/2024): 100.60 Price change: +21.60 Dividends collected: 1.018 Gain/Loss over 298 days: +22.62 +28.63% Annualized Gain/Loss: +35.07% This is an ETF, heavily weighted toward BRK.B and big banks and insurance companies. All would benefit from the impending yield curve reversion, which sometimes seems like it will never happen, but it will. Our little community banks lack the heft of the big boys to roll with the imposing tide of technology and compliance costs, plus the recurring headache of occupancy costs. Focus on BV/TBV is a distraction, and depends on hope rather than confidence. The stability of the holdings of IYF makes it a choice pick to replace any small bank stocks that are jettisoned to take tax losses. Was this user's rating of 'IYF' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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-- NYB --
NYB	Jan. 29 2005, 12:03 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
NYB performance: Price near date of rating (01/31/2005): 17.83 Recent price (11/12/2012): 12.79 Price change: -5.04 Dividends collected: 8 Gain/Loss over 7165 days: +2.96 +16.60% Annualized Gain/Loss: +0.85% This story is as good as ever, yet the stock is down some 50% from its high. Problem has been management has allowed itself to be misled by investment bankers into overfunding its balance sheet, then squandering the dough in ill-timed investments. They did this a few years back, then dug themselves out, rising to new heights of glory, only to do the dumb deed again in 2004. How many hits in the head with a 2x4 will it take to straighten these guys out? My guess is 2 is enough. Analysts look at this company and their models all scream "sell." My model screams "buy." This is a unique bank, with a dominant niche business that grows in correlation with NYC real estate values. The dividend exceeds 5%, and they raise it regularly. Was this user's rating of 'NYB' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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-- NYCB --
NYCB	May. 18 2017, 12:23 PM ET Rating changed on Jun. 7 2018, 6:04 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
NYCB performance: Price near date of rating (05/18/2017): 38.67 Price near end of rating (06/07/2018): 35.76 Price change: -2.91 Dividends collected: 2.04 Gain/Loss over 385 days: -0.87 -2.25% Annualized Gain/Loss: -2.13% Worst case: dividend stays the same, asset values continue solid, fails to diversify loan business from concentration in New York City multi-family mortgages, continues to manage balance sheet to stay below $50 billion SIFI threshold thus showing uninspiring earnings growth. Question is: how bad is that? Stock printing new 52-week lows. With no bad news coming, what can go right? One, the feds are talking about lifting the SIFI threshold, which would eliminate a major strategic distraction. Two, they could streamline their business by selling Ohio, Arizona and Florida branches which have shown lackluster performance in the single-family mortgage market (sure, this would increase their concentration in NYC commercial RE market, but it would make NYCB more attractive as a takeover candidate). Three, they could throw in the towel and auction the whole thing off. Was this user's rating of 'NYCB' helpful to you? Currently:   7 said yes (of 7 -- 100.00%)
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NYCB	Jun. 7 2018, 6:04 PM ET Rating changed on Jun. 7 2018, 6:06 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
NYCB performance: Price near date of rating (06/07/2018): 35.76 Price near end of rating (06/07/2018): 35.76 Gain/Loss over 0 days: 0.00 0.00% Well, they sold their blah single-family mortgage origination business for cash and the feds have raised the SIFI threshold far above their asset size, but the stock sank another buck in the last year, meaning that my worst case came true. Even worse than worst. All that is left is hope for some meaningful loan growth now that the shackles are off. Dividend is nice, but is it enough? Dropping rating to hold. Was this user's rating of 'NYCB' helpful to you? Currently:   7 said yes (of 7 -- 100.00%)
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NYCB	Jun. 7 2018, 6:06 PM ET Rating changed on Jan. 30 2019, 6:22 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
NYCB performance: Price near date of rating (06/07/2018): 35.76 Price near end of rating (01/30/2019): 34.29 Price change: -1.47 Dividends collected: 1.02 Gain/Loss over 237 days: -0.45 -1.26% Annualized Gain/Loss: -1.94% Well, they sold their blah single-family mortgage origination business for cash and the feds have raised the SIFI threshold far above their asset size, but the stock sank another buck in the last year, meaning that my worst case came true. Even worse than worst. All that is left is hope for some meaningful loan growth now that the shackles are off. Dividend is nice, but is it enough? Dropping rating to hold. Was this user's rating of 'NYCB' helpful to you? Currently:   7 said yes (of 7 -- 100.00%)
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NYCB	Jan. 30 2019, 6:22 PM ET Rating changed on Nov. 8 2019, 2:03 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
NYCB performance: Price near date of rating (01/30/2019): 34.29 Price near end of rating (11/08/2019): 36.30 Price change: +2.01 Dividends collected: 2.04 Gain/Loss over 282 days: +4.05 +11.81% Annualized Gain/Loss: +15.29% Upping rating to buy. As I wrote last time: "All that is left is hope for some meaningful loan growth now that the shackles are off. Dividend is nice, but is it enough?" Okay, loan growth has picked up, even though just a little. But big news today is comments about doing a "merger of equals" deal on the conference call. Management giving strong hints that they have a lot to offer, either to a target or an acquirer, and what they want is a stronger deposit base to fuel growing loan volume in the NYC market. They returned to this theme several times during the call, even when not being prompted. This is a better bank than it was in 2015 when the stock traded for about $19 a share. Was this user's rating of 'NYCB' helpful to you? Currently:   7 said yes (of 7 -- 100.00%)
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NYCB	Nov. 8 2019, 2:03 PM ET Rating changed on Jan. 24 2020, 08:08 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
NYCB performance: Price near date of rating (11/08/2019): 36.30 Price near end of rating (01/24/2020): 35.31 Gain/Loss over 77 days: -0.99 -2.73% Annualized Gain/Loss: -12.94% Reiterating buy rating. Management has recently commented that loan growth opportunities are being challenged by intense competitive pressures plus growing uncertainty over collateral values under the new NYC rent control laws. Stock has been hammered as the market was clearly disappointed by those comments. The Board has be taking notice of the dimming view of the horizon, Many directors are recent additions, as the originals are dying off and their children are inheriting their millions of shares obtained in the IPO. I can't say for sure that NYCB will be soon putting itself up for sale, but its NJ, NY, LI footprint has to be attractive to potential buyers like MTB, COF, TD, PBCT, even PNC. This is a much bigger bank than it was in 2015 when the stock traded for about $19 a share. Wouldn't it be nice if they could fetch a price even halfway from where it is today to where it was way back when. Was this user's rating of 'NYCB' helpful to you? Currently:   7 said yes (of 7 -- 100.00%)
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NYCB	Jan. 24 2020, 08:08 AM ET Rating changed on Jul. 28 2020, 1:20 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
NYCB performance: Price near date of rating (01/24/2020): 35.31 Price near end of rating (07/28/2020): 30.72 Price change: -4.59 Dividends collected: 1.02 Gain/Loss over 185 days: -3.57 -10.11% Annualized Gain/Loss: -19.95% Stepping to the sidelines. Appears no one wants to pay up for this franchise. Management has recently commented that loan growth opportunities are being challenged by intense competitive pressures plus growing uncertainty over collateral values under the new NYC rent control laws. Stock has been hammered as the market was clearly disappointed by those comments. The Board has be taking notice of the dimming view of the horizon, Many directors are recent additions, as the originals are dying off and their children are inheriting their millions of shares obtained in the IPO. I can't say for sure that NYCB will be soon putting itself up for sale, but its NJ, NY, LI footprint has to be attractive to potential buyers like MTB, COF, TD, PBCT, even PNC. This is a much bigger bank than it was in 2015 when the stock traded for about $19 a share. Wouldn't it be nice if they could fetch a price even halfway from where it is today to where it was way back when. My fear is that they will try to cure their ills by making an acquisition as a first step in reducing its dependence on loans to regulated multi family landlords. Was this user's rating of 'NYCB' helpful to you? Currently:   7 said yes (of 7 -- 100.00%)
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NYCB	Jul. 28 2020, 1:20 PM ET Rating changed on Apr. 26 2021, 11:39 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
NYCB performance: Price near date of rating (07/28/2020): 30.72 Price near end of rating (04/26/2021): 37.59 Price change: +6.87 Dividends collected: 1.53 Gain/Loss over 272 days: +8.40 +27.34% Annualized Gain/Loss: +36.69% Time to say good bye. Appears no one wants to pay up for this franchise. Management has commented that loan growth opportunities are being challenged by intense competitive pressures plus growing uncertainty over collateral values under the new NYC rent control laws. This is a much bigger bank than it was in 2015 when the stock traded for about $19 a share. My fear is that they will try to cure their ills by making an acquisition as a first step in reducing its dependence on loans to regulated multi family landlords. The squeeze on landlords shows no sign of abating. They will have increasing real estate taxes to pay (thank you Mayor DeBlasio) but will be unable to raise rents (thank you Albany Democrats). Was this user's rating of 'NYCB' helpful to you? Currently:   7 said yes (of 7 -- 100.00%)
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NYCB	Apr. 26 2021, 11:39 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
NYCB performance: Price near date of rating (04/26/2021): 37.59 Recent price (09/11/2024): 10.00 Price change: -27.59 Dividends collected: 5.8 Gain/Loss over 1235 days: -21.79 -57.97% Annualized Gain/Loss: -17.13% Time to say good bye, still! Appears no one wanted to pay up for this franchise, so they made an offer for another strategically challenged bank, Flagstar. NYCB management has commented that loan growth opportunities were being challenged by intense competitive pressures plus growing uncertainty over collateral values under the new NYC rent control laws. So, they needed a new way to generate loans. Flagstar has been very successful focusing their business in SFM origination, but that game is fast being taken over by the fintechs, and they realized their game was nearly over so better to sell now than suffer the future alone. Little wonder that no one else thought Flagstar was worth more than the paltry premium paid by NYCB. Was this user's rating of 'NYCB' helpful to you? Currently:   7 said yes (of 7 -- 100.00%)
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-- OCFC --
OCFC	Apr. 4 2003, 4:06 PM ET Rating changed on Jul. 26 2003, 11:45 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
OCFC performance: Price near date of rating (04/04/2003): 21.36 Price near end of rating (07/28/2003): 24.83 Price change: +3.47 Dividends collected: 0.2 Gain/Loss over 112 days: +3.67 +17.18% Annualized Gain/Loss: +55.99% Another beautiful chart! This puppy has withstood withering bouts of insider selling (albeit all option-related). Having owned the stock since Day 1, I have enjoyed numerous dividend increases and multiple stock splits. What prompts me to rate it a buy at this time is its recent price action during the unprecedented amount of stock being dumped into the market. Was this user's rating of 'OCFC' helpful to you?
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OCFC	Jul. 26 2003, 11:45 PM ET Rating closed on Oct. 2 2007, 10:43 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
OCFC performance: Price near date of rating (07/28/2003): 24.83 Price near end of rating (10/02/2007): 17.55 Price change: -7.28 Dividends collected: 3.4 Gain/Loss over 1529 days: -3.88 -15.63% Annualized Gain/Loss: -3.73% Having owned the stock since Day 1, I have enjoyed numerous dividend increases and multiple stock splits. What prompts me to upgrade my rating to a strong buy at this time is its high level consolidation has positioned it for a leap to even higher ground as more investors discount the terrific dividend record of this excellently-managed thrift. Was this user's rating of 'OCFC' helpful to you?
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-- PRTR --
PRTR	Dec. 15 2002, 12:29 PM ET Rating changed on Jun. 21 2003, 1:51 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
PRTR performance: Price near date of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Price near end of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Gain/Loss over 187 days: 0.00 0.00% Annualized Gain/Loss: 0.00% I think (hope) all the bulls on this stock have it right. Seems like a lay up. But the lack of dissent among the raters is a bit unnerving. Was this user's rating of 'PRTR' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 10 -- 30.00%)
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PRTR	Jun. 21 2003, 1:51 PM ET Rating changed on Dec. 25 2003, 11:10 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
PRTR performance: Price near date of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Price near end of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Gain/Loss over 187 days: 0.00 0.00% Annualized Gain/Loss: 0.00% Must reduce to hold, based on price performance. Acquisitive nature of management calls for caution by investors. I still have my original shares, but have sold some added in aftermarket. The lack of dissent among the other raters is a bit unnerving. Was this user's rating of 'PRTR' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 10 -- 30.00%)
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PRTR	Dec. 25 2003, 11:10 AM ET Rating changed on May. 22 2004, 1:03 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
PRTR performance: Price near date of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Price near end of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Gain/Loss over 148 days: 0.00 0.00% Annualized Gain/Loss: 0.00% I'm glad I held on to my stock for the 2nd step announcement. The big move north of 30 makes this number awfully rich. While it may have a bright future, the stock will do no better than average pending its full conversion, and that won't happen for many months. Meanwhile, it is as vulnerable as others to the upcoming flattening of the yield curve. As a matter of relative value, PRTR is overpriced. Was this user's rating of 'PRTR' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 10 -- 30.00%)
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PRTR	May. 22 2004, 1:03 PM ET Rating changed on Jun. 5 2004, 12:46 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
PRTR performance: Price near date of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Price near end of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Gain/Loss over 14 days: 0.00 0.00% Annualized Gain/Loss: 0.00% Upgrading from Sell to Hold. Stock has discounted worst case, which is unlikely to occur. Second step conversion will be a challenge in this environment, and will probably hold to the flatline pending a better market for thrift stocks. Surprise will be better performance, not worse. Thus, okay to hold this stock, or use as source of funds for new deals. Was this user's rating of 'PRTR' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 10 -- 30.00%)
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PRTR	Jun. 5 2004, 12:46 PM ET Rating changed on Jun. 13 2004, 2:52 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
PRTR performance: Price near date of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Price near end of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Gain/Loss over 8 days: 0.00 0.00% Annualized Gain/Loss: 0.00% I'm going to stick my neck out on this one, by upgrading from hold to buy, at this moment, when the early checks have still not been cashed. Methinks it is either a do-over at lower levels of issuance, a do guarantee at the minimum, a takeover of BSBN without the second-step conversion or a cancellation of the takeover altogether. In any case, the stock works higher from here. Fewer shares outstanding=higher return on equity. Was this user's rating of 'PRTR' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 10 -- 30.00%)
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PRTR	Jun. 13 2004, 2:52 PM ET Rating closed on Oct. 2 2007, 10:42 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
PRTR performance: Price near date of rating (05/09/2007): 1.01 Price near end of rating (10/02/2007): 1.18 Gain/Loss over 1206 days: +0.17 +16.83% Annualized Gain/Loss: +5.09% Upgrading again, this time to STRONG BUY. This deal will get done! Look for the announcement this week. By issuing the mid-point number of shares, the existing stockholders get a lot of assets without diluting their investment. This guy Sharp has a lot riding on this deal. He emerges as a major stockholder and a key executive in the asset generating part of the business, where his strength lies. The PRTR management team has done well on the deposit side, and they will continue in place. BSBN is a bargain buy for PRTR. It will become more of a commercial bank than a thrift, and enjoy the characteristic higher level of valuation. Was this user's rating of 'PRTR' helpful to you? Currently:   3 said yes (of 10 -- 30.00%)
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-- SYNF --
SYNF	Dec. 23 2002, 4:56 PM ET Rating changed on Jul. 8 2003, 10:28 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Sell
SYNF performance: Price near date of rating (01/06/2003): 4.57 Price near end of rating (07/08/2003): 5.40 Gain/Loss over 196 days: +0.83 +18.16% Annualized Gain/Loss: +33.82% Notice they will not pay a dividend and will grow their assets by buying indirect auto loans. If you like incendiary devices, you could feel comfortable owning this stock. But rocketships are a bit too uncertain for me. If they could own only one stock, I doubt any of the respected raters would pick this one. (Added 12/23/02: Did someone say "irrational exhuberance?" WFD is cheaper, safer and pays a dividend. Parabolic price movements cannot be sustained. Price is 17 as we speak.) Was this user's rating of 'SYNF' helpful to you?
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SYNF	Jul. 8 2003, 10:28 AM ET Rating closed on Aug. 29 2003, 12:46 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Sell
SYNF performance: Price near date of rating (07/08/2003): 5.40 Price near end of rating (08/29/2003): 7.01 Gain/Loss over 52 days: +1.61 +29.81% Annualized Gain/Loss: +209.24% I am raising my rating to a simple sell because generally improving economic conditions give the issuer a better chance of succeeding with its risky strategy. Absence of a dividend and leveraged growth by buying indirect auto loans is an incendiary formula. Rocketships like this are a bit too uncertain for me. If they could own only one stock, I doubt any of the respected raters would pick this one. Was this user's rating of 'SYNF' helpful to you?
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-- TONE --
TONE	Dec. 15 2002, 12:26 PM ET Rating changed on Jun. 21 2003, 1:53 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
TONE performance: Price near date of rating (12/16/2002): 15.10 Price near end of rating (06/23/2003): 19.82 Gain/Loss over 187 days: +4.72 +31.26% Annualized Gain/Loss: +61.02% Gathers deposits like a small bank, gathers assets like a big bank. Remember Bell Savings of Chicago? I think it lasted 3 years, then sold for nice premium. Was this user's rating of 'TONE' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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TONE	Jun. 21 2003, 1:53 PM ET Rating changed on Jul. 26 2003, 11:48 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
TONE performance: Price near date of rating (06/23/2003): 19.82 Price near end of rating (07/28/2003): 23.37 Gain/Loss over 35 days: +3.55 +17.91% Annualized Gain/Loss: +186.78% Happy with the gains since my original Strong Buy rating, but stock needs to consolidate here. Still a buy for long term. Gathers deposits like a small bank, gathers assets like a big bank. Remember Bell Savings of Chicago? I think it lasted 3 years, then sold for nice premium. Was this user's rating of 'TONE' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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TONE	Jul. 26 2003, 11:48 PM ET Rating changed on Sep. 5 2007, 6:44 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
TONE performance: Price near date of rating (07/28/2003): 23.37 Price near end of rating (09/05/2007): 22.59 Price change: -0.78 Dividends collected: 0.85 Gain/Loss over 1502 days: +0.07 +0.30% Annualized Gain/Loss: +0.07% Happy with the gains since my original Strong Buy rating, but stock really needs to consolidate here. Still a buy for long term. Gathers deposits like a small bank, gathers assets like a big bank. Remember Bell Savings of Chicago? I think it lasted 3 years, then sold for nice premium. TONE has been out for a bit more than a year. Not enough time to warrant this much premium. Was this user's rating of 'TONE' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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TONE	Sep. 5 2007, 6:44 PM ET Rating closed on Oct. 2 2007, 10:43 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Sell
TONE performance: Price near date of rating (09/05/2007): 22.59 Price near end of rating (10/02/2007): 27.19 Price change: +4.60 Dividends collected: 0.08 Gain/Loss over 27 days: +4.68 +20.72% Annualized Gain/Loss: +280.10% This one is supposed to be bought by CSE. With both outfits in the real estate development/construction/residential mortgage/leveraged balance sheet soup, I doubt the deal gets done. TONE eventually joins the crowd at a discount to book value, which is of an uncertain amount pending the next audit. Was this user's rating of 'TONE' helpful to you? Currently:   1 said yes (of 1 -- 100.00%)
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-- WFD --
WFD	Jun. 21 2003, 1:56 PM ET Rating changed on Aug. 29 2003, 12:49 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
WFD performance: Price near date of rating (06/23/2003): 5.64 Price near end of rating (08/29/2003): 6.72 Price change: +1.08 Dividends collected: 0.01524 Gain/Loss over 69 days: +1.10 +19.42% Annualized Gain/Loss: +102.73% Despite impressive price performance, stock is still cheap relative to its peer group. Its marketplace is ripe for consolidation. While this may not happen right away for this MHC, the prospect should keep the demand for shares high. Was this user's rating of 'WFD' helpful to you? Currently:   5 said yes (of 5 -- 100.00%)
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WFD	Aug. 29 2003, 12:49 PM ET Rating changed on Jul. 10 2004, 11:35 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
WFD performance: Price near date of rating (08/29/2003): 6.72 Price near end of rating (07/12/2004): 6.16 Price change: -0.56 Dividends collected: 0.04572 Gain/Loss over 316 days: -0.51 -7.65% Annualized Gain/Loss: -8.84% Company is signaling an early move to a second step conversion with the charter change that was just announced. But, by early I mean maybe in the 4th quarter of 2004. Price is discounting this now. Would like to see more generous dividend. That would get me to return my rating to a more positive buy. Was this user's rating of 'WFD' helpful to you? Currently:   5 said yes (of 5 -- 100.00%)
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WFD	Jul. 10 2004, 11:35 AM ET Rating changed on Jul. 31 2005, 1:30 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
WFD performance: Price near date of rating (07/12/2004): 6.16 Price near end of rating (08/01/2005): 7.77 Price change: +1.61 Dividends collected: 0.18283 Gain/Loss over 386 days: +1.79 +29.10% Annualized Gain/Loss: +27.52% Stock has fallen 20% from its high, which was at parity with its pro forma fully converted book value. The drop is typical for the thrifts in our universe, but is unjustified since this company is really a commercial bank. About a year ago, they changed their charter to reflect this. I had been looking for a second step conversion in the 4th quarter of 2004. That may have been too optimistic. But I still say it will happen soon. When the market prices this number appropriately, a 30-50% upmove wouldn't be surprising. Was this user's rating of 'WFD' helpful to you? Currently:   5 said yes (of 5 -- 100.00%)
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WFD	Jul. 31 2005, 1:30 PM ET Rating closed on Oct. 2 2007, 10:44 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
WFD performance: Price near date of rating (08/01/2005): 7.77 Price near end of rating (10/02/2007): 9.96 Price change: +2.19 Dividends collected: 0.55711 Gain/Loss over 793 days: +2.75 +35.36% Annualized Gain/Loss: +16.28% This is a perfect hold. Stock has recovered to its pro forma book value, and seems ripe for a second-step conversion. I am disappointed that its plan to build its commercial loan business has not met its original expectations. We may learn more if and when it files its second-step. For now, it is just a typical thrift, albeit with a commercial bank charter. Was this user's rating of 'WFD' helpful to you? Currently:   5 said yes (of 5 -- 100.00%)
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-- WGBC --
WGBC	Jan. 2 2003, 12:16 PM ET Rating changed on Feb. 9 2004, 4:52 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
WGBC performance: Price near date of rating (01/02/2003): 13.80 Price near end of rating (02/09/2004): 18.12 Price change: +4.32 Dividends collected: 0.44 Gain/Loss over 403 days: +4.76 +34.49% Annualized Gain/Loss: +31.24% These guys have come a long way since their initial offering, and have adopted a comprehensive business plan that has served them well in the last 2 years, leading up to and through the second step offering. Their goal is to become a billion dollar bank within the next year. They have received one takeover offer already, which they wisely rejected. There are likely to be others, at higher prices. Their business plan will tell them whether to accept or reject. Premium valuation is justified, in my opinion. Was this user's rating of 'WGBC' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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WGBC	Feb. 9 2004, 4:52 PM ET Rating changed on May. 30 2004, 10:14 AM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Hold
WGBC performance: Price near date of rating (02/09/2004): 18.12 Price near end of rating (06/01/2004): 15.30 Price change: -2.82 Dividends collected: 0.1 Gain/Loss over 110 days: -2.72 -15.01% Annualized Gain/Loss: -49.81% These guys have come a long way since their initial offering, and have adopted a comprehensive business plan that has served them well in the last 2 years, leading up to and through the second step offering. Their goal is to become a billion dollar bank within the next year. They have received one takeover offer already, which they wisely rejected. There are likely to be others, at higher prices. Their business plan will tell them whether to accept or reject. Premium valuation is justified, in my opinion. Was this user's rating of 'WGBC' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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WGBC	May. 30 2004, 10:14 AM ET Rating changed on Mar. 17 2005, 12:50 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Buy
WGBC performance: Price near date of rating (06/01/2004): 15.30 Price near end of rating (03/17/2005): 16.91 Price change: +1.61 Dividends collected: 0.34 Gain/Loss over 291 days: +1.95 +12.75% Annualized Gain/Loss: +15.99% Time for another upgrade. These guys are well positioned for higher interest rates, having managed their assets and liabilities conservatively. They have remained true to their business plan, and are now a billion dollar bank. The market will give this stock its due. A nibble here will pay off. Regular dividend increases, too. Was this user's rating of 'WGBC' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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WGBC	Mar. 17 2005, 12:50 PM ET Rating closed on Oct. 2 2007, 10:44 PM ET	by scuttlebut (view profile)	rating: Strong Buy
WGBC performance: Price near date of rating (03/17/2005): 16.91 Price near end of rating (09/21/2006): 15.59 Price change: -1.32 Dividends collected: 0.72 Gain/Loss over 928 days: -0.60 -3.55% Annualized Gain/Loss: -1.40% Time for still another upgrade. The market seems to not like the fact that is is "buying" a very solid commercial bank in its very solid area. Fact is, the combined company will be managed by the management of the commercial bank, so who is really buying who? WGBC took the face-saving route and decided to go out as an acquirer rather than as a target. Didn't phase the bankers. They are getting a terrific franchise, that they will no doubt fold into their already successful bank. WGBC is a tremendous buy at the current level. Was this user's rating of 'WGBC' helpful to you? Currently:   2 said yes (of 2 -- 100.00%)
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